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An Evaluation of NASAR or "Q"


I rarely, and try not to at all, rely on singular accounts of stated “facts”, cross referencing judgements/interpretations through time, researching origins and changes as the subject matter is produced.


Conspiracy theories abound and continue to grow through time, maybe especially in and during the current state of affairs/politics/purposeful divisiveness and, yes, it is hard to separate the truth from the “fake news” and alt right OR far left. We, as a society, have come to a crossroads where we take the path to and with the masses of either/every persuasion or the one much less traveled today of examination, investigation, inquiry and scrutiny. The latter is not easy, in actuality, very difficult, as the media of every stripe have their own agendas that perpetuate their interests, versions, ideas and ideals so it becomes a challenge to seek the whole picture and ferret out the accurate information that should, as more evidence arises and is verified, likewise be brought to light which seems to be rare in current journalism practices.

This exploration began as I was asked by a dear friend and colleague to look at an interview on- line re “Nesara/Gesara” (also known as QAnon or just “Q”) with Charlie Ward and Jack Kidd that was conducted on 5/15/20. Of the dozen or so points discussed I quickly observed numerous falsifications, misinformation, incorrect dates and lack of thoughtful inspection (or even common sense in some cases). Yet, not only is this conspiracy theory being perpetuated it is growing exponentially and is becoming an example of how and maybe why we are at the crossroads.

The theory began in October, 2017 with a post on the anonymous image board, 4chan, by “Q Clearance Patriot”, presumably by an American high-ranking intelligence officer representing a group claiming to have access to classified information involving the Trump administration and its opponents in the U. S. Supposedly, it concerned a secret plot by an alleged “deep state” against President Trump and his supporters, by top Democrats including the Clintons, the Obamas, George Soros and a multitude of Hollywood and media celebrities as well as religions leaders including Pope Francis and the Dalai Lama. The premise holding the expanding assemblage together is that in addition to molesting children the participants kill and eat their victims in order to extract life-extending elements from their blood.

Q is predicting that Trump’s war against the global cabal will cumulate in, “The Storm”, (and “The Great Awakening”) when he unmasks the members and their crimes and restores America to greatness. This became a reference to a cryptic remark the President made that same October posing with representatives from the military, “You guys know what this represents? Maybe it is the calm before the storm”. The Q believers use this as proof that the President is sending coded messages about his plans to break up the faction with the help of the military. The President also defended the group in a statement, “I’ve heard these are people who love our country…so I really don’t know anything about it other than they supposedly like me”. They look for any mention by the government of “seventeen” as Q is the 17th letter in the alphabet. It has also been proposed the when he wears a pink tie it is a sign that he is freeing trafficked children (a reference to hospital’s “code pink” for a child abduction in progress)

Among the various conspiracy theories that have become part of the movement are the JFK assassination, 9/11 and more recently the Pizzagate which began by alleging that Hillary and her associates were operating a child sex-trafficking ring out of the basement (which there was none) of a Washington restaurant, proven to be totally false and embarrassing resulting in criminal charges against Edgar Welch who shot three rounds from an AR-15 into the establishment, Q later speculated that the shooting was a staged attempt to discredit them.

It is obvious that the interest in the movement has increased, over 600% during the “Plandemic”, (as it is referred to on their sites) it has expanded worldwide with over a million individual participants who are now seeing it as both a political and social entertainment platform where they have alternate outcomes much like an online game of reoccurring characters, story lines and puzzle related functions. It has also been compared to a church where people have a like minded support system and agree on a common belief of good vs. evil. The phenomenon that came out of Q4 and Q8 into mainstream social networking on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, with the latter two taking down groups, pages and Instagram accounts in the flood of much controversy over content, “that endangers someone”, is still holding strong on several new message boards like EndChan and 8kun that are now organizing to “wage war” to influence the 2020 elections.

The radical element is now calling for “vigilante justice” and even though many of the predictions have not materialized the movement has found ways to reframe the discrepancies and continue to pursue their “Q Drops” in Facebook groups, chat rooms, the Discord chat app and Twitter threads all enticing and appealing to fellow and future believers. The followers have used #SaveTheChildren, a registered non-profit anti-child-trafficking organization, as a recruiting tool attracting a new dedicated but unaware audience. Their promotional schemes are mirroring religious concepts of millenarianism and apocalypticism purposefully construed to temp disgruntled organized church followers into a new role toward the 1,000 years (Millennium) of peace, life, hope and truth.

This prophesy continues to be a corner stone around which the rest of Q’s persuasive marketing campaign is based. As Travis View, a leading researcher in the origins, rise, acceptance and plans put it, “The essence of the theory is a worldwide cabal/sect of Satan-worshiping pedophiles who rule the world essentially controlling everything, including politicians, media, Hollywood [etc.] and cover their existence…they would continue to rule the world were it not for the election of President Trump who knows all about the evil wrongdoing, and is planning to put an end to them with the aid of the U.S. military by taking over the country and everyone will back him as a result of “Q” through the imminent event, “The Storm”, where thousands of people, members of the cabal, will be arrested, imprisoned and either executed or sent to Guantanamo Bay [which can only accommodate less than 1,000 prisoners] all resulting in salvation and utopia on earth”. Other respected academicians who study mass movements and cults have likewise issued warnings, “an evidence-free religious emergence”, “baseless”, “unhinged”, “a deranged conspiracy cult”, etc. It could be argued that all of the detractors are assimilated into the cabal but their diversity, affiliations, achievements and character decry any ulterior motives.

There are numerous sidebars and alt support clusters including fringe media outlets that promote and perpetuate Q and the associated internet connections that are becoming more sophisticated in luring pro “Q Clock” enthusiasts that use a wheel of concentric dials to decode clues based on the timing of Qdrops and Trump tweets (who may be totally unaware of his role in the process) with appealing plausibility of being involved with a world changing event. As View relates, “you can sit at your computer and search for information and then post about what you find and Q promises you are going to radically change the country, instituting this incredible, almost bloodless revolution becoming a part of historical event that will be written about for generations”.

Some believers have begun to realize that they have set into play self-isolation from family and friends and suffer loneliness due to their obsession and explore divesture of the cultish attraction, but others defend their actions with the isolation reinforcing the comrade they get from being a part of a life changing suspenseful moment that will culminate in vindication for their loyalty and prove their beliefs right as leaders in knowing better than those who were never involved.


There are many more directions, connections, events and/or facets that could be pursued but at this point I should go back to the crossroads I referred to at the beginning. We have come to a crossroads where the power of the citizens to direct the course of their future has become a human dilemma of great consequence where politics and partisanship have divided the existing population into fragments. Each faction is guarding their reality, defending their veracity and protecting their view of what they perceive as the truth even if they question the accuracy of their sources and cohorts. They feel that they have declared their allegiance to their alliances and must support their associates no matter what divisions result.

Certainly, all “sides” are under duress with an all-encompassing fear, anxiety and even panic over the multitude of stresses imploding on today’s society. Individuals within the populace are personally challenged trying to make the right decisions for themselves, their families, colleagues and friends. Thus, the blame for the situation we find ourselves facing is directed toward anyone that does not share our viewpoint, perspective or stance and it appears to be pointless to try to reason or even listen to others who we think have turned on America and have become the enemy.

The only thing that has become clear now, at this point in our 244 year history and what has become so disturbing, is to see the pursuit of power, seeking to gain momentum and leverage over every opponent that differs with another person’s thinking and/or position. No matter what the consequences are to the nation, the destruction to the original concepts that created the Republic and sustained it through numerous challenges, it seems there are no limits or boundaries to the defamation of what made us the democracy that, up until now, people around the world wanted to emulate.

The Founding Fathers were in the same boat after they decided to declare their Independence and they struggled mightily over what the Constitution would or would not include. They sequestered themselves and through all of the debate, considerations, communications, compromises, cooperation, collaboration and final agreements, they produced the most significant document civilization has experienced in governing a people for the benefit of all of its citizens. Was it perfect? No, it had to be amended and adjusted through the high court’s due to the necessary changes recognized by the populace that made it better, more equitable and unbiased, but the framework was there, and is still there, with the structure to allow it to survive and prosper.

The only infringement or misapplication of and to the document we strive to protect and project has been thwarted in the past and we must now take this opportunity to look closely at what we, each of us, can do to bring back the civility and respect for one another that it took to create the articles of the confederation. We must now look to each other as fellow Americans to enhance the meaning, purpose and significance of what is right and appropriate to provide an example for those that follow. Resolve to mediate, reconcile and reunite in a singular goal to make this moment in our heritage a positive one that brings us out of the deadlock and into a momentous transformation for a more perfect union.

Yes, we are at a crossroads, coming down separate trails but we have a responsibility to end up on the same path, even though we may be carrying divergent wisdoms, that will lead us into new perspectives and with a vision that encourages the next generations to look at their differences as we did in this one. 



Climate and water

Posted on September 8, 2017 at 3:50 PM

NOTE: These are my comments related to a recent series of conversations re climate and water specifically.

In response to: Study Finds Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Climate Data.

They are chasing a "ghost rabbit" down a bottomless hole....

Yes, there ARE fluctuations in the weather that do occur on a regular/cyclic basis and seasonal variations have and will continue to happen.....

BUT that is not the point that needs discussion and constant monitoring....the FACT that "science" and the results retrieved from careful evaluation of PAST climatic changes e.g. the altithermal, glaciation peaks, warming or cooling oceans, etc. has proven that the current alterations have never happened as quickly and consistently as they are right NOW.....

Now, why is that occurring? Every indication and scientific evidence is concluding it is because of the increased elements in the very complex atmosphere, e.g. CO2, which is at its highest level in 3 million years (and yes that is measurable) and could THAT affecting the conditions that we are experiencing....YES!!!

Let's step back and look at the big(er) picture.....what if....this is all a hoax and all these "scientists" are colluding for political reasons.....1.) What would be their point/agenda, what would they have to gain over the past several decades of warning that we were getting into, maybe headed for, an irreversible change? 2.) Even if we heed the warnings, what possible challenge is there to trying to clean up the environment, pollution is undeniable and affecting millions (look at every news cast from Beijing to India), 3.) Our reefs are dying at a faster rate than at ANYTIME in the past (and yes we know that), 4.) Edge habitat species are becoming extinct (the last time that occurred was over 7,000 years ago), 5.) What if, we clean up our air, rivers, lakes and even the oceans what harm will that have on the human population?

Our resources are finite e.g. the Ogallala aquifer, that underlies the Great Plains is, because of daily irrigation of millions of acres, dropping a foot a what? There is no recharge and in places it has already dropped below windmill level and is becoming below irrigation pump level and even if we drill deeper the largest underground water reservoir in North America will have been depleted by mid-century if usage is continued at the existing rate.

Finally, I find myself defending the scientific method a lot these days....reckon why that is....who, what, when, where, why and how does "fake news" become real?

It is now hard for the varying views to back down and each other.....and come to conclusions that benefit society as a whole...we need to, no "but's", no "and's, no "if's" or "maybe's"

The latter is factual....I held a "water conference" while I was at NMJC and that was the evidence based on hundreds of tests done from Nebraska to Texas...bottom line the aquifer is only about 100 ' deep in most places...deeper in extinct river channels but the depth below the surface varies from 400 ' in the Northern Plains to about 100 ' in the Southern Plains....this is "Paleo water" generated during the last Ice Age and recharge is only 0.024 inches / year in the southern part.

The first well was drilled in TX in 1911 near Lubbock which was 130 ' deep....In Hale County by 1930 there were 170 wells, by 1960, 4,300 and by 2008, 8, the surrounding 15 counties there are 88,000 wells with over 15,000 shut down, no longer able to pump water = dry.

The most recent info I was able to retrieve predicts at the current the depletion rate we could see all but a small percentage of wells going dry by 2028....the surviving resource will be in Nebraska (where the aquifer gets its name) and that will be in some 1,000 ' wells....So....I was being

It's always about education....we haven't done a very good job....actually a poor job of responding and relating to the general public....e.g. the water issue...states are now suing other states over "rights" and families are suing families that live on the other side of the road from the conservation initiatives...Selena (Calvin's PhD daughter specializing in ocean reefs) is seeing the degradation of reefs far beyond anything expected at this point...there have been several major "conferences" but that was academicians talking to the choir....It has to go beyond PBS.... It might have been possible to expand the Paris accords beyond politics but doubtful....there will always be debate but right now that is not getting either "side" to the table to discuss the challenges that start locally but affect globally....In TRYING to listen to both views I'm finding myself very frustrated by the lack of civility and the automatic refusal to listen and communicate with one another...which, I will add at the expense of offending a vast majority of the population, is reflective of the current "atmosphere" we find ourselves facing in our democracy. I guess by my nature I'm a mediator, and always, at least, seeking a solution...but that is certainly becoming more complicated.... cbs

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